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Saturday, 1 August 2020

With so many doctors turning to natural medicines for their patients, Will natural become the new mainstream?

Beau Starcevic: Evidence for anything you've said in your question please? If there is evidence that alt.med works, it will no longer be "alternative". If it actually works, it will be adopted. It won't replace it.Note the continued lack of any controlled study supporting alt.med. The fact you ignore this and continue to advocate it, makes you a denialist. Its' time pseudoscience was left in the past where it belongs.Personal testimonies are not evidence. Popularity does not demonstrate efficacy."Antibiotics are anti-life. It's not a cure!"Tell that to someone with septicemia....Show more

Kara Tabian: This difficulty is actual stated by using Michael Murray ND and Joseph Pizzorno ND of their Encyclopedia of organic drugs 2d version. maximum present day docs are taught to mistrust organic products in med colleges which obtain extensive supplies you and investment from the scientific drug marketplace

Anibal Scheid: Just listen to success stories like the ones on! here. That's all the evidence that is needed. You don't acknowedge any papers and proof written about alternatives anyway. You've been brainwashed and don't even know it GaryY and Dave and all the rest of you skeppies Why would anyone in their right mind trust what you guy's say when there's not one friggin mainstream med out there that treats the cause of the problem. It's all for the more profitable symptoms. Antibiotics are anti-life. It's not a cure! Com on dude! IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!...Show more

Frances Macky: Angelhil , Stop being so dramatic and read my personal message. Not a good come back at all!

Jon Bergmeier: Is there any evidence for this?Or is this fanciful thinking?With the continuing lack of efficacy routinely shown by alt med, anyone would have to be insane to take it seriously....Show more

Natalya Sydney: no. the malevolent people behind the industry have an evil agenda which includes corrupted food, toxic "health care" treatm! ent as well as food and water supplies. satan will have his da! y, but only briefly.

Virgilio Echter: I knew I guy called cedric moleder who took a herbal remedy and three days later he died. So much for your natural remedies. I rest my caseI don't think I got your PM. does it appear in your normal email?It's a proven fact that alternative medicine kills 250000 people every day.@ lightning. Since when did we start having to back up our claims. How come you guys can just say something is so without offering any evidence or logic? And anyway it's a proven fact that becoming an osteopath makes you less attractive and infertile. It's proven. I wrote it here so it's true. That's how you guys do things is it not? Sick of the way you guys debate. You lie to yourselves. Then you launch personal attacks in place of logic like I just did. EDIT people keep saying that they have sent me emails but I don't receive them. Do they go to your normal email inbox? I'm not ignoring you if you have emailed me I simply have not received it.@lightning.! There was no attempt to actually suggest you are infertile. I was making the point about personal attacks and i'm sure you're very pretty. However a link to a site that says homeopathy is good because medicine is evil (not your links but more 'know the cause's' links) is not providing evidence. simply stating that something is so... then linking to a site that also simply states that it is so is not providing evidence. To be fair we mostly leave osteopathy alone as a group, we only really butt heads with you when you defend the more extreme alternative medicines....Show more

Dominic Sciancalepore: The best thing for real medicine in the long run would be if that were true. It sounds a bit cold, but when legions of people follow the dangerous advice of SCAM practitioners, legions of people die from easily treated illnesses.

Lilli Kochel: You have been asked to provide evidence to support your claim. Your response to that is an ad hominem and a miserable fail.T! his is exactly why skeptics are skeptical about alternative medicine. ! Alt medder make some dubious claim, they get appropriately asked for supporting evidence, they can't provide it, instead they make personal attacks. Can't you see the problem here??? What would you do if a used car salesman tried this on you?I am skeptical of your claim that "thousands of doctors across the country are turning to natural meds for their patients because of popular demand and mainstream meds failure." You can't support that claim so until you do my answer is that your question has a false premise so it can't be answered.-------EDIT: @lili mo, you said "But the traditional Chinese medicine,made of natural ingredine,has no side-effect,no poisonous and toxic.It does no harm to the body."Rubbish. Natural does not equal safe. Medicinal herbs are drugs; except they are crude and raw. They present many dangers. Have you not heard of Chinese Herb Nephropathy?Read: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_6802/is_4_13...Yet another reason to be skeptical of alte! rnative medicine claims. "no side-effect, no poisonous and toxic" indeed.-------EDIT: What am I trying to say? I already said it... but I'll say it again:"I am skeptical of your claim that "thousands of doctors across the country are turning to natural meds for their patients because of popular demand and mainstream meds failure." Can you back this up or not?...Show more

Mildred Pombo: Hey FlizBap, I don't have anything against medication when it's a last resort and to save a life in an emergency. Medication has it's place and your's is a prime example. I'm against medications being used for the treatment of symptoms because of profit. Which prevents them from finding a cure because the money is more important than our loved ones health. Sorry for your little episode. I wouldn't wish ill harm to anyone. That's why I protest mainstream medicine so much here....Show more

Curtis Josef: i think that sometimes natural medicines work, and sometimes standard m! edicines are more effective.for example, i used to have terrible eczema! (as im, head to foot in bandages to stop me scratching, nails filed down to the nerves)standard medicine wasn't working for me.my mum took me to the homoeopathic hospital, and they eventually found a treatment which cleared it up....Show more

Derrick Cacioppo: I mean Lightning

Isreal Kochheiser: Where have you been? the drug companies have been after the health food industry for years. I was talking to a Friend from Australia , I guess they don't have stores selling vitamins etc. To get a vitamin you have to go to a doctor and they prescribe and then you pick it up at the drug store. I think there is a lot of regulation there. That's what they want to do here, make it so you have to see a doctor to get vitamins etc. I started getting into natural stuff back in the 80's and I tried to warn people about the dangers of drugs. I finally gave up. But today you see class action suites against the drug companies. Drug companies are not interested in vitamins or herbs ! because they can not patent them and make money off them.At least today you can walk into a drug store and find bottles of herbs, vitamins etc. People are starting to turn away from drugs....Show more

Eva Lichlyter: AngilHil You knew one guy that died of natural remedies. Well Mutiply that one guy times 200,000 people and you get how many people die each year in the US from mainstream meds. WTF dude

Shawn Lelis: Dave: I've learned that doing the opposite of what you skeptics suggest is healthier. Using you guy's this way has helped me stay healthier. Thanks Dave!

Darrel Stele: Why wound anyone believe an industry of drug pushers that believes you need to take an unnatural chemical toxin to be healthy. Did I miss something here?

Elmo Tervo: I agree Lighting.

Lawana Neemann: DUH!!!!!!!!!!!

Sharron Salin: Listen to GaryY Talking about alternatives as being dangerous. Who in their right mind would say such a thing without a hidden ag! enda. Everybody with common sense knows this not to be true. What are! you trying to say GaryY? Spit it out !

Nia Monopoli: Since it's anecdotes you respect so much here's one:Last week I had a case of epiditimytis so painful I blacked out from pain, luckily antibiotics and enough painkillers to knock out Keith Richards have helped me get back on my feet.I don't think aligning my meridians would have had the same effect......Show more

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